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skippy the bush kangaroo

Saturday, April 25, 2009

torture works, except when it doesn't,which is never

via washmonthly, we find out that torture doesn't work...according to the cia inspector general in 2004:

the cia inspector general in 2004 found that there was no conclusive proof that waterboarding or other harsh interrogation techniques helped the bush administration thwart any "specific imminent attacks," according to recently declassified justice department memos.

that undercuts assertions by former vice president dick cheney and other former bush administration officials that the use of harsh interrogation tactics including waterboarding, which is widely considered torture, was justified because it headed off terrorist attacks…

[inspector general john] helgerson also concluded that waterboarding was riskier than officials claimed and reported that the cia's office of medical services thought that the risk to the health of some prisoners outweighed any potential intelligence benefit, according to the memos.

the ig's report is among several indications that the bush administration's use of abusive interrogation methods was less productive than some former administration officials have claimed.

even some of those in the military who developed the techniques warned that the information they produced was "less reliable" than that gained by traditional psychological measures, and that using them would produce an "intolerable public and political backlash when discovered," according to a senate armed services committee report released on tuesday.
posted by skippy at 5:46 PM |


It's been said that the torture of prisoners was done to elicit information the Bush administration knew was false but could be used for political purposes anyway, in true Chinese Communist fashion. I think that's giving these cretins more credit than they deserve. They tortured people for one very simple reason: they're sadists.

It's the Ockham's Razor principle: the explanation which makes the fewest assumptions is the one that is most likely to be the correct one. You drag politics into this, and you muss up the whole sheboygan. These people did what they did because they enjoy making others suffer. No more, no less. That's their eight-year track record, that's their m.o. (just examine their religious views if you think otherwise), that's what animates them.

There isn't hell enough to pay for the crimes these worthless scrap heaps have committed...
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I mean yeah,...they DID recruit some sadistic motherfuckers to do this work for them...and they KNEW it was a wasted effort...and they DID IT ANYWAY....
And Kept doing it...and kept lying about doing it..and the entire time they were not really interested in ACTUAL INTELLIGENCE GATHERING .....just some goddam ass covering...
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You know... I thought about it a good deal...and I decided that the post headline,.."torture works, except when it doesn't,which is never"... just defeats me at tortured logic...

I cannot disprove that or prove it...(heheheh)
To anyone who attempts to skirt law and military law in favor of truth commissions or immunity for any war criminal, you my friend are aiding and abetting. The following letter to an American Hero may help you understand.

Dear Lt. Col. Joseph H. Kress,

First, I salute your service in the armed forces to give me the rights and liberties my children and I enjoy! Second, I salute your continued service to the People, even in retirement, as it is men of honor like you, who remind me of another hero of mine, Major General Smedley Darlington Butler, who may again save our country from the terrorists within. Through efforts to expose the People to Truth, so as they may do as it with they will, hopefully overthrowing a secret cultish regime plaguing our world and threatening our Constitution, I cannot thank you enough. Truth to Power is the key and salvation for the People. You give me strength, purpose, and a determination in our values that I am proud of, if necessary willing to die defending, as is also my duty as a citizen to act, when government corrupts against the People.

Our country now in shambles from these shameless Elitists, not elite earned through valor or honor or good and honest business, but suffering from the psychotic delusion of Elitism that manifests itself in Delusions of Grandeur elitists, their power inherited power and as such, they are truly powerless, mere Wizards of Oz. Most needing to have their fathers dummy up military documents to cover-up that they were draft dodgers not warriors, not men willing to die for the Constitution, Democracy and Freedom, more like the powers we left in England long ago of spoiled rotten third or fourth generation Kings, who mistreat the mass, leaving to form a more Perfect Union. This time the spoiled boys club went too far and was caught in war crimes and wars of aggression and no matter whom your daddy or grandpappy was, you should and will, be tried, convicted and punished.

Perfect Union, perhaps not and perhaps there was always a seedy underbelly, a spoiled rotten part of society but overall our nation was the most fantastic nation ever for freedom, sure, we had some dark secrets. Our military worldwide, until secret cults began to manipulate the country treasonously into wars of aggression, etc., could hang its hat high and our sons of war could walk the earth in the most esteemed fashion virtually everywhere, as the most Just force, saviors of the world from the tyranny of evil men. Shamefully now, all that is gone with Bush, well gone when the cults actually seized the US government in Bush v. Gore in a power grab modeled on Adolph Hitler’s and they then began a heavy saturation of the government with cult members, whereas prior, the cults influence had been modest and small, a President here and there.

Americans aligned with Nazi Ideology, in America, come on http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/noon.html ? Why would one want to align with one of the biggest historical losers? Americans modeling themselves after Hitler, breeding and inbreeding in our Ivy League Schools and this is what our best and brightest came up with for the future of America, a New World Order of Nazis. Excuse me, again they were not the best and brightest through earning such stature, their degrees and titles were bought in almost all cases, so with so much free time, this does not surprise me that these spoiled rotten children concocted a world domination scheme to keep the trust funds flush. So rob and rape, like the Pirates they name themselves after, plunging our country into moral bankruptcy and chaos.

After seizing the Presidency in Bush v. Gore where the Supreme Court picked for us our worst President ever (they should be fired for the pick alone), in a 5-4 vote that usurped the Peoples vote they thereby eliminated Democracy. The Supreme Court is what the traitorous cults first began stacking, with every presidential candidate they put in power new appointments were added and once they controlled it, they went for the power grab. There was another factor at that instant in time in 1999, a very inventive factor worth a Trillion Dollars, whereby lawyers deeply involved in these cults, including Joseph Proskauer’s law firm, Proskauer stooge to JP Morgan in the Business Plot to kill FDR, got caught stealing patents and robbing the US Patent Office, the heart of free commerce. Their partner in that crime, Foley & Lardner an IP firm in Wisconsin, run by Michael Grebe, also RNC chief counsel and with everything to lose, these law firms, to head off judicial complaints against their firms and themselves, needed to steal the Presidency and block due process by removing Justice to my claims.

From there the fox was in the henhouse, a pattern that closely followed Hitler’s rise followed with first the Reichstag Fire or today’s Trade Centers. Onto the Enabling Act, or today’s Patriot Act, written by unpatriotic guys whom never served but dressed up in military fatigues and landed on decks with real soldiers. To the removal of Habeas rights that both Hitler and Bush achieved, instantly removing law entirely. Then they went on to the big crimes, like Wars Of Aggression, Torture, Concentration Camps (Gitmoschwitz and Abu and Black Sites), to world destabilization of financial markets and here we now sit on the brink of fascism again, in need of heroes of freedom from AmeriNazi’s. Not all Germans this time but a mix of breeds of greed of all shapes and colors, willing to sell out their kind for a perceived ride on the gravy train, infiltrating the Repubs and Dems equally, sabotaging every agency they gained control of. I again salute you Sir for your continued valor on my behalf to bring the current traitors to light.

Yet, now our children have to live with the horrors of what our country has done, not only to others but also to our very soldiers (using them for chemical experiments in Gulf 1&2), we now look like Nazi’s complete with images and video of torture that will forever stain our great nation. We must this time try these elitists for TREASON, not just war crimes and this time achieve what Butler did not when he exposed the Business Plot. Butler was rushed to expose the plot before the assassination attempts could succeed on FDR, without enough proof to prosecute but enough to stop them dead in their tracks, and almost get them tried for treason in the McCormick Dickstein hearings, Butler set them back 50 years.

This time they were not so lucky, they were caught doing war crimes while in office. The evidence is well saturated throughout the world, their secret is no longer a secret, their names are known, their companies are known, and they have committed the acts. Not merely were they in the planning phase like in the Business Plot, where there was only intent and no act other than intent to support treason at such high level, this time they actually seized power for the treasonous coup and executed a mass of crimes. Therefore, we must prosecute all those involved, not only Bush down but also all those who backed Bush in the secret cabals, the co-conspirators and then we must take their companies and assets under the Trading with Enemy provisions. The booty divided back up to the People, of course with mass bonus to the military and vets who suffered some of the worst of these monsters atrocities, to the victor goes the spoils and we probably would not need any Tarp or other funds to saddle our children and future to their debtitude.

Our country now depends on one thing, prosecution of those involved in the conspiracy to Commit Treason at every single level, with no truth commission amnesty, according to military law, the laws of the US and World Treatises on Warfare. Any who stand in the way and try to subvert the law to allow leniency or amnesty, including the President or Attorney General, should be tried with the conspirators for giving comfort to the enemy, aiding and abetting the enemy, more aptly the Terrorists Within, especially where proven cult relations exist between those attempting to pardon in anyway these crimes. Now, if there were soldiers who were misled and did not have lawyers to interpret the new law, I mean secret memos, and did not join in the actions under true premise, then Sir, we shall be obligated to grant them full pass and have compassion for them. They too must still be tried but not convicted, vindicated through trial and then they will be free of the demons that will haunt them. If Justice is denied they will remain like many Vietnam soldiers deeply disturbed at no fault of their own. With conviction of the guilty comes freedom of the innocents.

If there were soldiers at any level who knew of the contrived memos and other crimes and voluntarily acted to misdirect other soldiers to torture, than they shall have to be tried as War Criminals and no leniency should be granted. As we move up the chain, to those who actively subverted law and the Constitution and gave orders to follow their new laws, they should be tried for Treason and additionally as War Criminals. Then we should grab all the members of the established cults who plotted this, at night whilst they sleep, include members of Congress, the courts and legal profession that allowed this and take them into a Military Commission and Court of Law for trial under law for Treason and other high crimes and misdemeanors. No matter if their names end Rothschild, Rockefeller, Bush, Cheney, etc., they must be tried to the fullest extent of the law, with courts not run by other cult members. If they are guilty they shall be hanged and their assets seized and good riddance.

There can be no other way, our future as a Democracy depends on it, and the future of the children depends on it. What will we leave the children if truth, justice and the American way are not upheld and only the question of why we failed to clear their way for the Democracy you and your brothers in arms have fought and died in valor to give them. They will look at us as cowards, afraid to face the enemies of our nation, who sold the country down the river, while we observed complacently. On the other hand, it is truly a golden opportunity for our country to cleanse itself of these minority elitist secret cabals gone mad who have robbed and raped this nation and our values. We could now show the children the power of our nation and set an example that will set fear in the hearts of those who would dare be treasonous, no man above the law, prosecutions to the full extent of law.

We must take back the airwaves from the monsters of propagandized media and get investigative journalism with integrity back to aid the cause. We must take their corporate power and military power away and return it to true businesspersons, not war and drug profiteers who are members of psychotic power cults. We must restore the faith of our People and the World that once again, we are a Democracy committed 100% to the law and our Constitution, or we fail and the world will soon align against us, including our own People. As with Butler, they will try to siege the military to turn on the People and suppress the rebellion that already stirs beneath my feet. They will try World War, as desperate men will take desperate measures to justify their horripilating crimes, as it now appears they were torturing People merely to gain information that would justify their lawless Wars of Aggression by having them say Al Qaeda or Al Quixote was in Iraq, whether it was true or not, to support their crimes. Iraq, as I am sure you know, had only one Bush appointed Terrorist, Saddam and there was not an ounce of Bush supported to power Bin Laden/ Al Qaeda in fact in Iraq.

Even after hundreds of times torturing these suspected “terrorists”, they still could not get the connection, since none existed. Why is no one asking what of those we are torturing who have no information and we torture without even knowing if in fact they are enemy combatants, according to pre-Bush terminology of war, what rights have they? This was torture for torture films perhaps, for the cult members to watch in delight at the Yale crypt, like the Nazi’s who enjoyed their torture films and these are the people we have running or ruining our country. Why is no one asking what of the soldiers, our soldiers that were subjected to torturing other humans outside the code of conduct for the military, innocent and now horrified by their actions committed under corrupt orders, as they were misled by their leaders but still have to live with the warmares? Why, my final question, are there no MIA in Iraq, where are all the American soldiers captured in Iraq or Pakistan, where are their mothers protesting on the White House Lawn for their release, where are all the Extremists who have captured them cutting off their heads, the terror, the terror? There are none, the first wars fought in war history without POW’s, no coffins either of our dead soldiers coming home, to honor them as they come home from defending truth, justice and the American Way. No gun salutes at their funerals to bring tears to the eye for the dead, our heroes, unsung heroes, just thrown in the ground no honor from the nation. The military must prevail and force trials on these cults and when they come calling to join the military in their coup, dressed in fatigues to look like men of valor, I hope and Pray there are others like you and Butler, unwilling to flinch an inch on the codes of honor that make us the greatest union on earth. If we cannot, I pray for our children.
I am in a war against these men, if you would like to check it out, www.iviewit.tv , I also have legislation that could act as a dagger in the heart to these cults but cannot get a politician to endorse it, wonder why @ www.iviewit.tv/senatecultbill.htm and for the far side of my experience http://iviewit.tv/CompanyDocs/Book/index.htm . Below, I have attached a recent piece I am working on to try them under US Code Title 18 for Treason, not merely a few for War Crimes, a rough rough draft.

Best of Luck in your efforts to combat the enemy whomever and wherever they may be,

Eliot Bernstein
Iviewit Technologies, Inc.
2753 N.W. 34th St.
Boca Raton, Florida 33434-3459
(561) 245.8588 (o)
(561) 886.7628 (c)
(561) 245-8644 (f)

§ 2381. Treason

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

[Eliot says that if a cult like Skull and Bones members, with the aid of other cults, CFR, Bilderbergs etc. can be proven to have secret oaths that run contrary to America’s core Constitutional Values and they planned a secret coup on the US that can be proven, then the legal grounds for Treason trials are established. So the question becomes, when did the coup start and who were and are its members.

The members have been exposed, the plot is no longer secret and now the question becomes has it been enacted, a formal coup and when historically did it begin influence and violate law, what activities has it effected and how to clean it up and try those involved under law. Effective coups are landmarked by economic shifts initially, so define if today, since Bush for starters, if the economic landscape shifted for the benefit of a few at the expense of many.

Obvious economic shifts have taken place brought on by the coup who has instituted them in conspiratorial fashion, propagandizing false information and manipulating events to benefit the plotters. For this analysis let us call them the Terrorists Within, evil doers, etc., the same name they ascribe to those who challenge American’s freedoms. Despite the fact that they are American’s, they are valueless American’s who have plotted a New World Order founded about Hitlarian logic.

The Best Kept Secret Treason in America – The Business Plot
Your kidding me right, a treason against America by American’s exposed by a Military Hero, validated in Congressional records and yet somehow not prosecuted? Wow, daddy musta had some pretty big warbucks to keep him out of jail, who were these degenerate American’s who wanted to overthrow the government to align with Nazi Germany and take over the world, killing all that were inferior. Here’s the scoop in black and white, straight missing from your text book history, check it out:


In the summer of 1933, shortly after Roosevelt's "First 100 Days," America's richest businessmen were in a panic. It was clear that Roosevelt intended to conduct a massive redistribution of wealth from the rich to the poor. Roosevelt had to be stopped at all costs.

The answer was a military coup. It was to be secretly financed and organized by leading officers of the

1. Morgan

a. (Joseph Proskauer was Morgan’s stooge)

2. Du Pont empires. This included some of America's richest and most famous names of the time:

a. Irenee Du Pont - Right-wing chemical industrialist and founder of the American Liberty League, the organization assigned to execute the plot.

3. Grayson Murphy - Director of Goodyear, Bethlehem Steel and a group of J.P. Morgan banks. MacGuire worked for a leading brokerage house headed by Grayson Mallet-Prevost Murphy, a West Point graduate who had seen action in the Spanish-American War and WWI. Murphy had extensive industrial and financial interests as a director of Anaconda, Goodyear Tire, Bethlehem Steel and a number of Morgan-controlled banks. His personal appearance was impressive: tall, heavy-set and giving evidence that in his younger years, he must have been quite handsome.

4. William Doyle - Former state commander of the American Legion and a central plotter of the coup.

5. John Davis - Former Democratic presidential candidate and a senior attorney for J.P. Morgan.

6. Al Smith - Roosevelt's bitter political foe from New York. Smith was a former governor of New York and a codirector of the American Liberty League.

7. John J. Raskob - A high-ranking Du Pont officer and a former chairman of the Democratic Party. In later decades, Raskob would become a "Knight of Malta," a Roman Catholic Religious Order with a high percentage of CIA spies, including CIA Directors William Casey, William Colby and John McCone.

8. Robert Clark - One of Wall Street's richest bankers and stockbrokers.

9. Gerald MacGuire - Bond salesman for Clark, and a former commander of the Connecticut American Legion. MacGuire was the key recruiter to General Butler.

The plotters attempted to recruit General Smedley Butler to lead the coup. They selected him because he was a war hero who was popular with the troops. The plotters felt his good reputation was important to make the troops feel confident that they were doing the right thing by overthrowing a democratically elected president. However, this was a mistake: Butler was popular with the troops because he identified with them. That is, he was a man of the people, not the elite. [note to self, this is a real hero] When the plotters approached General Butler with their proposal to lead the coup, he pretended to go along with the plan at first, secretly deciding to betray it to Congress at the right moment.

What the businessmen proposed was dramatic: they wanted General Butler to deliver an ultimatum to Roosevelt. Roosevelt would pretend to become sick and incapacitated from his polio, and allow a newly created cabinet officer, a "Secretary of General Affairs," to run things in his stead. The secretary, of course, would be carrying out the orders of Wall Street. If Roosevelt refused, then General Butler would force him out with an army of 500,000 war veterans from the American Legion. But MacGuire assured Butler the cover story would work:

"You know the American people will swallow that. We have got the newspapers. We will start a campaign that the President's health is failing. Everyone can tell that by looking at him, and the dumb American people will fall for it in a second…" [Boy the public has fallen for far more lately but you must dumb them down, a term of the coup disguised as “no child left behind”. Yes, these same people who made it in Democracy, hate the People who gave them wealth and power.]

The businessmen also promised that money was no object: Clark told Butler that he would spend half his $60 million fortune to save the other half.

And what type of government would replace Roosevelt's New Deal? MacGuire was perfectly candid to Paul French, a reporter friend of General Butler's:

"We need a fascist government in this country… to save the nation from the communists who want to tear it down and wreck all that we have built in America. The only men who have the patriotism to do it are the soldiers, and Smedley Butler is the ideal leader. He could organize a million men overnight."

Indeed, it turns out that MacGuire travelled to Italy to study Mussolini's fascist state, and came away mightily impressed. He wrote glowing reports back to his boss, Robert Clark, suggesting that they implement the same thing.

If this sounds too fantastic to believe, we should remember that by 1933, the crimes of fascism were still mostly in the future, and its dangers were largely unknown, even to its supporters. But in the early days, many businessmen openly admired Mussolini because he had used a strong hand to deal with labor unions, put out social unrest, and get the economy working again, if only at the point of a gun. Americans today would be appalled to learn of the many famous millionaires back then who initially admired Hitler and Mussolini: Henry Ford, John D. Rockefeller, John and Allen Dulles (who, besides being millionaires, would later become Eisenhower's Secretary of State and CIA Director, respectively), and, of course, everyone on the above list. They disavowed Hitler and Mussolini only after their atrocities grew to indefensible levels.

The plot fell apart when Butler went public. The general revealed the details of the coup before the McCormack-Dickstein Committee, which would later become the notorious House Un-American Activities Committee. (In the 50s, this committee would destroy the lives of hundreds of innocent Americans with its communist witch-hunts.) The Committee heard the testimony of Butler and French, but failed to call in any of the coup plotters for questioning, other than MacGuire. In fact, the Committee whitewashed the public version of its final report, deleting the names of powerful businessmen whose reputations they sought to protect. The most likely reason for this response is that Wall Street had undue influence in Congress also. Even more alarming, the elite-controlled media failed to pick up on the story, and even today the incident remains little known. The elite managed to spin the story as nothing more than the rumors and hearsay of Butler and French, even though Butler was a Quaker of unimpeachable honesty and integrity. Butler, appalled by the cover-up, went on national radio to denounce it, but with little success.

Butler was not vindicated until 1967, when journalist John Spivak uncovered the Committee's internal, secret report. It clearly confirmed Butler's story:

In the last few weeks of the committee's life it received evidence showing that certain persons had attempted to establish a fascist organization in this country…

There is no question that these attempts were discussed, were planned and might have been placed in execution if the financial backers deemed it expedient…

MacGuire denied [Butler's] allegations under oath, but your committee was able to verify all the pertinent statements made to General Butler, with the exception of the direct statement suggesting the creation of the organization. This, however, was corroborated in the correspondence of MacGuire with his principle, Robert Sterling Clark, of New York City, while MacGuire was abroad studying the various form of veterans' organizations of Fascist character.

Needless to say, the survival of America's democracy is not an automatic or sure thing. Americans need to remain vigilant against all enemies... both foreign and domestic.


Special Committee on Un-American Activities Authorized to Investigate Nazi Propaganda and Certain Other Propaganda Activities (1934-35)

Special Committee on: Volume Congress (dates)

UnAmerican Activities to investigate Nazi Propaganda 21 feet 73d-74th (1934-35)

22.86 The Special Committee on Un-American Activities Authorized To Investigate Nazi Propaganda and Certain Other Propaganda Activities (73A-F30.1), forerunner of the Committee on Un-American Activities, was created pursuant to House Resolution 198, 73d Cong., adopted on March 20, 1934. The committee was established in reaction to the overthrow of a number of established foreign Governments in favor of communist or fascist systems and reflected concern that foreign propaganda might subvert the U.S. Constitution. Accordingly, the committee was established to ascertain information on how foreign subversive propaganda entered the U.S. and the organizations that were spreading it, as well as to suggest legislation to remedy the situation.

22.87 The committee was frequently referred to as the McCormack-Dickstein Committee in reference to its chairman and vice chairman, John W. McCormack of Massachusetts and Samuel Dickstein of New York. It conducted public and executive hearings intermittently between April 26 and December 29, 1934, in Washington, DC; New York; Chicago; Los Angeles; Newark; and Asheville, NC, examining hundreds of witnesses and accumulating more than 4,300 pages of testimony. The committee accumulated evidence regarding individuals and organizations who worked to establish in the United States policies followed by the Nazis in Germany, the Fascists in Italy, and the Communists in Russia. The committee gave particular attention to the organization and activities of Friends of New Germany and Silver Shirts of America. The committee submitted its report on February 15, 1935 (H. Rept. 153, 74th Cong., 1st sess., Serial 9890).

22.88 Records of the committee include correspondence, investigative reports, press reports, drafts of the committee report, printed resolutions pertaining to the committee or related topics, and vouchers and other administrative documents. There are also transcripts of both public and executive hearings, exhibits, subpoenas, memorandums, reference materials, and copies of domestic and foreign publications circulated in the United States. Records obtained by the committee from the files of William Dudley Pelley, leader of the Silver Shirts of America, are also included; they consist of correspondence concerning personal matters and his activities as a writer, as well as correspondence and other records concerning the organization and administration of the Silver Shirts.

22.89 There is a finding aid to the records of this committee.

Wow, not a conspiracy theory but hidden factual history of an actual attempted coup on the US that would have allied us with Fascism, who were the great thinking aholes behind this?

From Wikipedia and other sources we find the Nazi sympathizers back then, to be the very Nazi’s amongst us today, their names just end in the II or III, etc. and they are the grandchildren of these traitors who evaded prosecution for the Business Plot.

Today’s coup. Names like Morgan, Bush, Proskauer, Citi, Oil Companies and there concerns, etc. are again surfacing around the war crimes and financial crimes of today, that may have been being committed since possibly the Vietnam War and further back, mostly done through the organization of secret cults with oaths[1] to subvert the Constitution. In fact, Bush and John Kerry were both members of the cult Skull & Bones and whereby admitted such cult membership which would make them subject to treason, if the secret has anything to do with subversion, which is its principle. This brings us back to the question of why Bush said in his autobiography: “[in] My senior year (at Yale) I joined Skull and Bones, a secret society, so secret, I can’t say anything more” and Kerry stated http://iviewit.tv/CompanyDocs/bush-kerry-yale.wmv.

This amounts to documented admission that the former President and his running mate belonged to a secret cult with a secret agenda and the agenda is subversion of the United States. How did America not catch this, this was a coup and here was the evidence of secret cult members going for the shebang and right before our eyes. Well kinda, as the media was already controlled by the Skull Bones and CFR since Bush first stole the Presidency, with the aiding and abetting of the Supreme Court, many of that courts members planted by Bush I, a Skull cult member and Reagan who both stacked the country with CFR cult brothers in positions throughout the Courts.

Note that Bush was Republican and looked and smelled like one and played them like sheep and Kerry was a Democrat and looked and smelled like and played them like sheep, yet both had sworn secrecy to a cult, whose game it was to divide and conquer them like sheep, surrounding them like foxes, yet wearing sheep clothes. Now I am one to give credit where credit is due, they did a great job of staging things to that point and then things took a magical and divine turn, see www.iviewit.tv for background on how an angels technologies were delivered, that acted grail like and drew corruption together worldwide, in not only a power grab but an attempt to siege the government, the justice department and courts, to protect and shield themselves for prosecution of theft of a Trillion Dollar “Holy Grail” technologies (yes two “Holy Grail” technologies gotta love the higher P0wer in all grandness), that they were caught stealing.

Who you ask, Bush and Kerry? No, they were just the faceplates for the men who put them into power to stave off prosecution, lawyers, yes dirty rotten lawyers, caught ripping of not just my inventions but caught in a massive fraud on the US Patent Office to rip off inventors. Patent Lawyers, ripping off inventions, a bold crime, part of the ongoing coups plot to subvert democracy, being committed by the largest law firms in the land. Some pretty powerful ones at that, Foley & Lardner and Proskauer Rose to name a few. That Foley firm was headed by a one Michael Grebe, W. Point Cadet gone Kurtz, hatred of the American People but also Chief Counsel of the Republican National Committee. Now, his personal fortune at risk, estimated @ close to one billion at the time, as his law firm’s name was all over the fraudulent patent applications filed with the US. So, we had the WASP, Wisco boy, as the No. 1 backer of, you guessed it, Bush II, an election he would win, come hell or high water, even if he had to steal it which was the case.

So calls were made, the RNC became the HQ for the coup[2], their boy GW, with the help of some election fraud and Supreme cult plants, now in the drivers seat. This was going to be easy street with the executive branch seized at the highest level and two generations of fellow cult members already in place, the coup was a success. The party began, first hold of the Iviewit Patent Theft complaints at all costs, FL and NY courts would have to be overtaken. Anywhere complaints cropped up, lawyers, I mean dirty lawyers, would have to subterfuge and with the Justice Dept, already well under siege with the CIA by Skull members, see list, well that appeared taken care, now just murder the inventor and his family and let’s move on to some other crimes, as no one is watching the henhouse.

Now secret cults, that ideologize Hitler’s regime where actually in control in the United States and one need not question why exactly the US now looks like Nazi America complete with Wars of Aggression, War Crimes, torture, concentration camps (black sites, Gitmoschwitz and Abu ) and a Constitution that benefits the Reich or take the e out and in this case the Über[3] rich, not rich who earned it the hard way in democracy but those spoiled of those who did. If they don’t like your kind, they bag your head and ship you off to camps and deny you lawyers and habeas and wow, we are now Nazi’s.

Skull and Bones is no Jim Jones cult, it is insipid in that it grows within our most established and esteemed learning institutions. From a small, relatively harmless cult of old military men, back in the days of real world wars, came a small faction of soldiers who debated in a military cabal cult, the way of the world. The cult then hooked up with the Nazi party and attempted the Business Plot, the first power grab, that went haywire, thanks to my hero Butler, a true warrior, a military man of honor, a dedicated American saving our nation and children from tyranny. This set the cult back, almost caught them for treason at that time and had Butler waited and got more damning evidence before exposing them to the Congress, prosecutions would have been inevitable.

Instead Butler, similar to what Patrick Fitzgerald did with Blago, in order to fray their efforts before it was to late, rushed a bit to prosecution to stem the evil tide, most likely figuring if he waited it may be to late, FDR murdered and the country thrown into Nazism. Tough choice.

Today, the coup did not get so lucky, they got caught this time with damning evidence that will NEVER go away, damning evidence that once they grabbed power, they went insane, like those before them historically and in their madness, they violated law, including invading countries without proper rational, torturing subjects to gain false intel to support their wrongful wars of aggression, removing human rights and civil rights, war profiteering, financial crimes and just about every law they could break. Then they tried a rewrite of the Constitution, one that would remove laws against their crimes and allow the country to be taken over. Again, it was the honorable military men, real men and women who served our country, not had their daddy’s dummy up military records to make their feeble, spoiled rotten, elitist without reason children look like real hero’s, who came to bat for the American People and saved the country from perhaps this getting much further out of hand. The People looked more like the American Sheep, confused as to if the country was really under siege and torturing people and invading countries without rational. No protests, just bahhh, bahhhh.

An effective secret cult has overthrown our government? Come on. 9.11 was staged? Come on. The war intel for justification to invade Iraq was falsified with intent? Come on. A CIA spy was exposed for telling the truth? Come on. Our President and Vice President went to Yale and their families all belonged to a subversive cult, Skull and Bones with oaths to subvert the US and the People? Come on. Our President and Vice President and Secretary of Defense, all in related Cults, began torturing people to try and foster confessions to bolster their War of Aggression in Iraq, not carrying if the intel was right or wrong, as long as it tied Al Qaeda (Al Quida, Al Quixote, etc.) to Iraq, which it never did? Come on? Our leaders set up concentration camps and denied people their basic human and civil rights, including habeas, and many died there? Come on. They overthrew Justice and the Supreme Court, the Supreme Court who then illegally voted them into power, denying the American People a true and accurate vote, ceasing Democracy for the first time in history. Come on, your nuts, this could never happen in America, this can’t be true, let me stick my head in the sand for if not I will raise my mighty sword to cut down all that were treasonous. As always, swords free @ www.iviewit.tv .]


§ 2382. Misprision of treason
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States and having knowledge of the commission of any treason against them, conceals and does not, as soon as may be, disclose and make known the same to the President or to some judge of the United States, or to the governor or to some judge or justice of a particular State, is guilty of misprision of treason and shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than seven years, or both.

[Eliot says this is very interesting, as it forms a duty of public servants to report known anti American plots. Just knowledge without even involvement can lead to years in the fed hopper. Since this is a widespread world power grab, the involvement of main players has now spread to many recruitments, recruitments placed with specific missions to carry out against the organizations they are placed in.

Even knowing of the greater conspiracy, despite their actual involvement at this point in time is criminal, as many may not be called to action until their agencies are in need of subversion. FEMA director, Michael DeWayne Brown was Undersecretary of Emergency Preparedness and Response (EP&R), a division of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), a position generally referred to as the director or administrator of the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA). Before joining the DHS/FEMA, Brown was the Judges and Stewards Commissioner for the International Arabian Horse Association, (IAHA), from 1989-2001. After numerous lawsuits were filed against the organization over disciplinary actions, Brown was forced to resign and this guy was planted to look the other way while innocent black and impoverished people floated to the ceiling during Katrina. See how it works?

So every oath taken by a secret cult member, that then takes public office is actually guilty of misprision, despite whether they committed any direct or covert acts, the mere act of membership, without reporting it to a justice, or governor or president is convictable.]

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§ 2383. Rebellion or insurrection
Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

[Since the cult organizations influence our democracy and the authority of the United States and desire a New World Order to replace the republic our ancestors died to leave us and secure our freedoms, this would constitute as a rebellion and insurrection. Those who have taken secret oaths to subversive cults, whether or not they are actively participating are in fact aiding and comforting those who are actively at the time involved in crimes. Many cult members are put in positions of justice, intelligence, the courts and oversight, in order to give comfort to those committing the acts that in the event they are caught, justice will be negated. A prime example of placing unqualified operatives with cult objectives would have been the Harriet Miers nomination at the Supreme Court, placed to tip the balance, not due to qualifications.]

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§ 2384. Seditious conspiracy
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

[Eliot says Seditionists without a doubt, the acts are covert in order to overthrow democracy and turn the United States into a Fascist/Hitlerian state.]

§ 2387. Activities affecting armed forces generally
(a) Whoever, with intent to interfere with, impair, or influence the loyalty, morale, or discipline of the military or naval forces of the United States:

(1) advises, counsels, urges, or in any manner causes or attempts to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty by any member of the military or naval forces of the United States; or

(2) distributes or attempts to distribute any written or printed matter which advises, counsels, or urges insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty by any member of the military or naval forces of the United States—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

(b) For the purposes of this section, the term “military or naval forces of the United States” includes the Army of the United States, the Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard, Navy Reserve, Marine Corps Reserve, and Coast Guard Reserve of the United States; and, when any merchant vessel is commissioned in the Navy or is in the service of the Army or the Navy, includes the master, officers, and crew of such vessel.

[Under A - Now this section is beyond doubt prosecutable under the Bush Administration in several ways. The Bush Administrations intent to falsify intel to go to war against Iraq definitely interfered with the operations of the military and demoralized it in the process. The fact that the intel was falsified led to a loss of loyalty, morale and discipline in the military forces. Further, in attempting to change the torture laws and forcing soldiers to torture people in violation of Title 18, the Geneva Convention and other Torture and War treatises, the administration not only impaired the loyalty, morale and discipline of the US Soldier, it destroyed the entire countries loyalty and morale to the armed forces.

Under A1 –

Under A2 – In distributing falsified intel and forcing soldiers to torture suspected prisoners of war (illegally obtained) they have caused insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny and refusal of duty by many in the armed forces.]


§ 2388. Activities affecting armed forces during war
(a) Whoever, when the United States is at war, willfully makes or conveys false reports or false statements with intent to interfere with the operation or success of the military or naval forces of the United States or to promote the success of its enemies; or

Whoever, when the United States is at war, willfully causes or attempts to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty, in the military or naval forces of the United States, or willfully obstructs the recruiting or enlistment service of the United States, to the injury of the service or the United States, or attempts to do so—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

[Here is another slam-dunk treason charge that is prosecutable against the Bush Administration. Falsified intel to begin a war of aggression defines this section, the enemy it promoted is the secret cults, the enemy within, whom had oil and war profiteering interests in the invasion of Iraq. Saddam Hussein was not the enemy here, our own government was and since the war began on falsified intel, there is no reason one soldier should be in Iraq today for ANY reason, as it continues to make the US a country that is an Aggressor Warring Nation acting outside the law and treatises of War everyday our soldiers our there. Since the war was entered into on false premise, the boys should be brought home instantly and if the country wants to return to Iraq, the Congress should be forced to make that decision to wage war based on the correct intel, intel that never justified such war in the first place.]

(b) If two or more persons conspire to violate subsection (a) of this section and one or more such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each of the parties to such conspiracy shall be punished as provided in said subsection (a).

[This would extend liability and criminality to all those directly involved in the acts of the conspiracy and all those members of the cult organizations involved since they all work together active or inactive to subvert the military and its operations.]

(c) Whoever harbors or conceals any person who he knows, or has reasonable grounds to believe or suspect, has committed, or is about to commit, an offense under this section, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

(d) This section shall apply within the admiralty and maritime jurisdiction of the United States, and on the high seas, as well as within the United States.

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§ 2389. Recruiting for service against United States
Whoever recruits soldiers or sailors within the United States, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction thereof, to engage in armed hostility against the same; or

Whoever opens within the United States, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction thereof, a recruiting station for the enlistment of such soldiers or sailors to serve in any manner in armed hostility against the United States—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

[Skull and Bones and the CFR, etc. recruit members to subvert government positions in order to commit hostilities against the America People.]

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§ 2441. War crimes

(a) Offense.— Whoever, whether inside or outside the United States, commits a war crime, in any of the circumstances described in subsection (b), shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for life or any term of years, or both, and if death results to the victim, shall also be subject to the penalty of death.

[Eliot says death penalty, as their war crimes, including war of aggression premised on false information, has led to 5+ several million Iraqi citizens and US Soldier victims. Information proves that war was entered on false, propagandized (fox, cnn, newcorp, etc…) information, thus bring boys home tomorrow and have Congress vote on correct intel if our boys should be there. If war was conspired to begin by Bush admin, try the bstards, no one is above the law, yes, we are now reading law, not spin.]

(b) Circumstances.— The circumstances referred to in subsection (a) are that the person committing such war crime or the victim of such war crime is a member of the Armed Forces of the United States or a national of the United States (as defined in section 101 of the Immigration and Nationality Act).

[Bush, Cheney and Rummy all meet definition, although none was a true military man, they had politico military powers.]

(c) Definition.— As used in this section the term “war crime” means any conduct—

(1) defined as a grave breach in any of the international conventions signed at Geneva 12 August 1949, or any protocol to such convention to which the United States is a party; [We not only are party but we wrote most of them, they allow for now rationale to justify violations, as every Nazi has excuses, following orders, lets move on, etc…]

(2) prohibited by Article 23, 25, 27, or 28 of the Annex to the Hague Convention IV, Respecting the Laws and Customs of War on Land, signed 18 October 1907;

(3) which constitutes a grave breach of common Article 3 (as defined in subsection (d)) when committed in the context of and in association with an armed conflict not of an international character; or

(4) of a person who, in relation to an armed conflict and contrary to the provisions of the Protocol on Prohibitions or Restrictions on the Use of Mines, Booby-Traps and Other Devices as amended at Geneva on 3 May 1996 (Protocol II as amended on 3 May 1996), when the United States is a party to such Protocol, willfully kills or causes serious injury to civilians. [If we went to war in Iraq illegally, every death caused is a violation and in fact, bombing a civilian target especially, when acting in an unjustified aggressive war, is terror to the victims and triable under herein.]

(d) Common Article 3 Violations.—

(1) Prohibited conduct.— In subsection (c)(3), the term “grave breach of common Article 3” means any conduct (such conduct constituting a grave breach of common Article 3 of the international conventions done at Geneva August 12, 1949), as follows:

(A) Torture.— The act of a person who commits, or conspires or attempts to commit, an act specifically intended to inflict severe physical or mental pain or suffering (other than pain or suffering incidental to lawful sanctions) upon another person within his custody or physical control for the purpose of obtaining information or a confession, punishment, intimidation, coercion, or any reason based on discrimination of any kind.

[Note the lack of exceptions, as there are no exceptions to torture as it is a Jus Cogan and thus no law can justify it, like slavery. Just War, as defined by St. Augustine Aquino way back, the premise of today’s war code, strictly prohibits torture and all great warriors respect this, all monsters do not. With Bush et al. they claim they tortured because ticking time bomb scenario but there never was one, except if you consider World Trade Center 7 which collapsed hours after the two trade centers were brought down through implosion, not airplanes which Bush and the media wholly forgot in their made for television event on the American people. In fact, Trade Center 7 had no plane and still has no answers to the People, in the end it will be viewed as a staged event by a conspiratorial group of spoiled Ivy League pukes gone mad. More perverse, a coup on the US and all we believe in, such as Truth (all lies now), Justice (Better in Russia now, we have more Czars with Obama now, funny I though Czars were evil) and the American Way (if torture has become the American Way or failure to prosecute such heinous acts has, then count me out of the American Way and I will be damned if you think I’m marching to the beat of new Nazi America.]

(B) Cruel or inhuman treatment.— The act of a person who commits, or conspires or attempts to commit, an act intended to inflict severe or serious physical or mental pain or suffering (other than pain or suffering incidental to lawful sanctions), including serious physical abuse, upon another within his custody or control.

(C) Performing biological experiments.— The act of a person who subjects, or conspires or attempts to subject, one or more persons within his custody or physical control to biological experiments without a legitimate medical or dental purpose and in so doing endangers the body or health of such person or persons.

[I question if the biological experiments done to our soldiers with experimental drugs, etc. on these soldiers constitutes, can you imagine how real military men feel, when they hear their OWN boys are coming back with lifetime illnesses from bizarre drug experiments done not on the enemy but their sons and daughters.]

(D) Murder.— The act of a person who intentionally kills, or conspires or attempts to kill, or kills whether intentionally or unintentionally in the course of committing any other offense under this subsection, one or more persons taking no active part in the hostilities, including those placed out of combat by sickness, wounds, detention, or any other cause.

[The suicides at these camps are all qualified, the deaths of any untried tortured human is also qualified. Say Gitmo, if one, just one, person died there, denied their rights, than it was a concentration camp, not a military war tribunal, not a prisoner of war camp under the GC but a US Concentration camp, no court, no judge, no jury, just torture without law and murdering suspects on hunches, the rule of law abandoned.]

(E) Mutilation or maiming.— The act of a person who intentionally injures, or conspires or attempts to injure, or injures whether intentionally or unintentionally in the course of committing any other offense under this subsection, one or more persons taking no active part in the hostilities, including those placed out of combat by sickness, wounds, detention, or any other cause, by disfiguring the person or persons by any mutilation thereof or by permanently disabling any member, limb, or organ of his body, without any legitimate medical or dental purpose.

(F) Intentionally causing serious bodily injury.— The act of a person who intentionally causes, or conspires or attempts to cause, serious bodily injury to one or more persons, including lawful combatants, in violation of the law of war.

(G) Rape.— The act of a person who forcibly or with coercion or threat of force wrongfully invades, or conspires or attempts to invade, the body of a person by penetrating, however slightly, the anal or genital opening of the victim with any part of the body of the accused, or with any foreign object.

(H) Sexual assault or abuse.— The act of a person who forcibly or with coercion or threat of force engages, or conspires or attempts to engage, in sexual contact with one or more persons, or causes, or conspires or attempts to cause, one or more persons to engage in sexual contact.

(I) Taking hostages.— The act of a person who, having knowingly seized or detained one or more persons, threatens to kill, injure, or continue to detain such person or persons with the intent of compelling any nation, person other than the hostage, or group of persons to act or refrain from acting as an explicit or implicit condition for the safety or release of such person or persons.

(2) Definitions.— In the case of an offense under subsection (a) by reason of subsection (c)(3)—

(A) the term “severe mental pain or suffering” shall be applied for purposes of paragraphs (1)(A) and (1)(B) in accordance with the meaning given that term in section 2340 (2) of this title;

(B) the term “serious bodily injury” shall be applied for purposes of paragraph (1)(F) in accordance with the meaning given that term in section 113 (b)(2) of this title;

(C) the term “sexual contact” shall be applied for purposes of paragraph (1)(G) in accordance with the meaning given that term in section 2246 (3) of this title;

(D) the term “serious physical pain or suffering” shall be applied for purposes of paragraph (1)(B) as meaning bodily injury that involves—

(i) a substantial risk of death;

(ii) extreme physical pain;

(iii) a burn or physical disfigurement of a serious nature (other than cuts, abrasions, or bruises); or

(iv) significant loss or impairment of the function of a bodily member, organ, or mental faculty; and

(E) the term “serious mental pain or suffering” shall be applied for purposes of paragraph (1)(B) in accordance with the meaning given the term “severe mental pain or suffering” (as defined in section 2340 (2) of this title), except that—

(i) the term “serious” shall replace the term “severe” where it appears; and

(ii) as to conduct occurring after the date of the enactment of the Military Commissions Act of 2006, the term “serious and non-transitory mental harm (which need not be prolonged)” shall replace the term “prolonged mental harm” where it appears.

(3) Inapplicability of certain provisions with respect to collateral damage or incident of lawful attack.— The intent specified for the conduct stated in subparagraphs (D), (E), and (F) or paragraph (1) precludes the applicability of those subparagraphs to an offense under subsection (a) by reasons of subsection (c)(3) with respect to—

(A) collateral damage; or

(B) death, damage, or injury incident to a lawful attack.

(4) Inapplicability of taking hostages to prisoner exchange.— Paragraph (1)(I) does not apply to an offense under subsection (a) by reason of subsection (c)(3) in the case of a prisoner exchange during wartime.

(5) Definition of grave breaches.— The definitions in this subsection are intended only to define the grave breaches of common Article 3 and not the full scope of United States obligations under that Article.

[The reason these so called high value people have not been tried, is that this was not about high value intel collection, it was about a witch hunt and the desire to torture people and try and justify it with legal memos. Justifying international treatise of war, in fear of a guy on camel with no combat boots and maybe a dirty Russian abomb but last pictured with a soviet ak47 that looked a wee bit rusty. Wow, I am scared; I will give up my freedoms and allow my government to violate all law to protect me, the threat of this terror guy so vast as to make me forget my real enemies, countries with real armies and weapons. Hmmm, the Russians, although broke, still have lots of nuclear weapons, the N Koreans, the Chinese, etc. real threats that I still would not sell freedom out for but you the American Coward, sold out like little Nazi’s. Now you all are tough and so appear, all afraid of camel guy, with no army, who is on dialysis and George Bush’s father put him in power and funded him. He flew his family out of the country with no questions asked on 9.12.]




[1] The oath taken by the Skull & Bones aka Illuminati requires the initiated to disregard all bonds of allegiance whether to father, mother, brothers, sisters, relations, friends or to the king, magistrates, and any other authority to which loyalty, obedience, or service may have been sworn. The particular passage reads: “faithfulness and everlasting obedience to all superiors and regulations of the Order…. you are free from the so-called oath to country and laws: swear to reveal to the new chief… what you may have seen or done, intercepted, read or heard, learned or surmised, and also seek for and spy out what your eyes cannot discern. Honour and respect the Aqua Tofana (a slow poison) as a sure, prompt, and necessary means of purging the globe by death of those who seek to vilify the truth [their ideology] and seize it from our hands... in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.”

[2] Note the missing RNC emails and the dead geek that set them up who died under strange circumstances.

[3] Adolf Hitler used Nietzsche's term "übermensch" in his descriptions of an Aryan master race. It is through this association with Superman the hero that the term "über" carries much of its English sense implying irresistibility or invincibility.
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