Saturday, May 19, 2007
breaking: pot calls kettle black
jimmy carter, who doesn't really have that much of a standing to toss around the words "worst president in history," accused awol of being such. reuters:
former u.s. president jimmy carter blasted george w. bush's presidency as "the worst in history" in international relations and denounced british prime minister tony blair's loyal relationship with bush in interviews released on saturday.
"i think as far as the adverse impact on the nation around the world, this administration has been the worst in history," carter, a nobel peace prize winner, said in a telephone interview with the arkansas democrat-gazette from the carter center in atlanta.
"the overt reversal of america's basic values as expressed by previous administrations, including (those of) george h.w. bush and ronald reagan and richard nixon and others, has been the most disturbing to me," carter told the newspaper.
reached for comment in dead presidents heaven, warren g. harding said, "thank god, i was getting tired of being laughed at by james buchanan.""i think as far as the adverse impact on the nation around the world, this administration has been the worst in history," carter, a nobel peace prize winner, said in a telephone interview with the arkansas democrat-gazette from the carter center in atlanta.
"the overt reversal of america's basic values as expressed by previous administrations, including (those of) george h.w. bush and ronald reagan and richard nixon and others, has been the most disturbing to me," carter told the newspaper.
Labels: aWol, foreign policy
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Carl, 5:18 AM PDT
Carl, 5:18 AM PDT
I would have said Carter's presidency was less than stellar, too. He strikes me as a good man who just wasn't cut out to be president. But he beats the hell out of Bush. I can't believe he came out and said what he said. Those really are fighting words...
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Thanks for the snort. Now someone pass me a windex wipe. I got quad-shot mocha on the monitor.
Thanks for the snort. Now someone pass me a windex wipe. I got quad-shot mocha on the monitor.
Skip, don't forget: Jimmy Carter didn't say he was the worst president 'compared to me'. He compared him to Presidents who were compared favorably to Carter himself, even Nixon. Reagan, Bush I, Nixon; all were better. He did not add "Even worse than me," but he could have. Would that make you guys feel better? Would that add more weight to his words?
I'm of the opinion that the Clinton worship is a little over the top. He was a fairly conservative guy. I learned this all in retrospect, by reading blogs like this one and tempering my view of the first president I was able to vote for. He wasn't the best people say he was. But he was much better than Bush. Same goes for Carter, I'm sure; I didn't experience his presidency at an age that would allow proper judgement, but I know enough that he's been spending his days afterwards proving he is a man of deep values and thoughts. I won't knock what he says no matter how fucked a President he WAS, any more than I would knock your opinions despite the fact you were never President.
You don't have to be a chicken to smell a bad egg.
I'm of the opinion that the Clinton worship is a little over the top. He was a fairly conservative guy. I learned this all in retrospect, by reading blogs like this one and tempering my view of the first president I was able to vote for. He wasn't the best people say he was. But he was much better than Bush. Same goes for Carter, I'm sure; I didn't experience his presidency at an age that would allow proper judgement, but I know enough that he's been spending his days afterwards proving he is a man of deep values and thoughts. I won't knock what he says no matter how fucked a President he WAS, any more than I would knock your opinions despite the fact you were never President.
You don't have to be a chicken to smell a bad egg.
Carter's insults are a case of GWB being called ugly by a frog. Carter's record is so miserable he had a 21% approval rating in July 1980---ten points below GWB's lowest.
His incompetence with the Shah before the events of '79, including not supplying rubber bullets to the Shah's Tac-Squads [Pat Derian wrote "no!" on the State Dept recommendation with her lipstick!] led to the eventual accession of the Ayatollah, the Islamic Republic, and a permanently unsettled Middle East. His Camp David Accords were a joke, and his getting the Nobel Prize markedly diminished the value and credibility of that award.
Carter makes a fool of himself every few months or so and is in the bottom five of all US presidents---maybe Buchanan & Pierce below---make that the bottom three!!
His incompetence with the Shah before the events of '79, including not supplying rubber bullets to the Shah's Tac-Squads [Pat Derian wrote "no!" on the State Dept recommendation with her lipstick!] led to the eventual accession of the Ayatollah, the Islamic Republic, and a permanently unsettled Middle East. His Camp David Accords were a joke, and his getting the Nobel Prize markedly diminished the value and credibility of that award.
Carter makes a fool of himself every few months or so and is in the bottom five of all US presidents---maybe Buchanan & Pierce below---make that the bottom three!!
dave in boca:
Carter's insults are a case of GWB being called ugly by a frog. Carter's record is so miserable he had a 21% approval rating in July 1980---ten points below GWB's lowest.
His incompetence with the Shah before the events of '79, including not supplying rubber bullets to the Shah's Tac-Squads [Pat Derian wrote "no!" on the State Dept recommendation with her lipstick!] led to the eventual accession of the Ayatollah, the Islamic Republic, and a permanently unsettled Middle East.
I'm pretty sure the events of '79 were set in motion by Dulles and the CIA in '53 when Mossadegh was ousted from power. Many, including progressive Iranians, were pretty pissed off about that.
Of course, the Iranians who came to the US in the '70s when the Shah's power was slipping (even before Carter took office) were all right-wing Royalists, and most are still very right-wing here in this country.
And Carter's approval rating was almost entirely due to the hostage crisis. I'm always curious when someone criticises him, how they would have handled it differently.
And as others have mentioned, the hostages clearly were pawns toward the end, as the Repubs gamed their release with promises of arms sales. Oh yeah, that was Reagan, the great communicater, that 'morning in america' guy.
Fucking bastard, he was.
Carter's insults are a case of GWB being called ugly by a frog. Carter's record is so miserable he had a 21% approval rating in July 1980---ten points below GWB's lowest.
His incompetence with the Shah before the events of '79, including not supplying rubber bullets to the Shah's Tac-Squads [Pat Derian wrote "no!" on the State Dept recommendation with her lipstick!] led to the eventual accession of the Ayatollah, the Islamic Republic, and a permanently unsettled Middle East.
I'm pretty sure the events of '79 were set in motion by Dulles and the CIA in '53 when Mossadegh was ousted from power. Many, including progressive Iranians, were pretty pissed off about that.
Of course, the Iranians who came to the US in the '70s when the Shah's power was slipping (even before Carter took office) were all right-wing Royalists, and most are still very right-wing here in this country.
And Carter's approval rating was almost entirely due to the hostage crisis. I'm always curious when someone criticises him, how they would have handled it differently.
And as others have mentioned, the hostages clearly were pawns toward the end, as the Repubs gamed their release with promises of arms sales. Oh yeah, that was Reagan, the great communicater, that 'morning in america' guy.
Fucking bastard, he was.
Carter deserves better than this, Skippy. He was the one who put Volcker in charge of the Fed and who began the painful work of getting inflation and interest rates under control. He started the repairs on the damage LBJ and Nixon did to the national economy, and he got a 21% approval rating for his efforts. He could have copped out and kept the economy limping along and he didn't.
He wasn't a great president, but if you're actually playing the "Carter was very nearly as bad as Dubya" game, you're way off base.
He wasn't a great president, but if you're actually playing the "Carter was very nearly as bad as Dubya" game, you're way off base.
carter was ranked 27th out of 42 (tied w/ford, right under chester a. arthur) on the same list where buchanan (second to last) made fun of harding (last).
while not in the bottom 10%, it's not a ranking to be particularly proud of.
while not in the bottom 10%, it's not a ranking to be particularly proud of.
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commented by , 7:20 PM PDT
Man, Skippy, what are you trying to do? Score points with the reichwing nuts? Carter has no standing to be calling Bush the worst president ever? Really? Refresh my memory: When did Carter lie to get us into a war for which there seems to be no end? Tell me how the level of corruption and incompetence in the Carter Administration comes ANYWHERE near to what is going on in the Bush regime? Carter was and is still respected in international circles whereas our current President and Secretary of State are considered a joke by the international community. Taking this into account, you're gonna tell us that Carter doesn't have the right to call Bush the worst President ever?? Goddamn! No wonder why more and more blogs are dropping you from their rolls.
gene214
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commented by , 9:31 PM PDT













Carter was like many liberal administrators: the ideas he put in place didn't yield immediate fruits, but over the longer haul, paid enormous dividends.
Everyone credits Reagan for deregulation, but it was really Carter who started the ball rolling such that you can now fly cross-country, in real dollars, today for less than in 1975.
Yes, he made some enormous blunders and yes, he was outflanked in 1980 by the greedy Republicans who were more than willing to see American hostages die than Carter get re-elected, but history will be far kinder to Carter than we are.